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e united methodist church on his surviving of the attack in june. easterna 10:00 a.m. here on c-span. up next, a discussion on the importance of having a plan in place for dealing with an active shooter situation it was part of the fourth circuit court of appeals judicial conference last may in west virginia. one of the unfortunate realities
of life today is we have to worry about an active shooter. we have prepared a program for you this morning to talk about the active shooter, what you shoulddo if you unfortunately find yourself in that situation. i think you will find it of great practical value. i will turn it over to judge hudson. >> thank you, chief. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, our presentation today is about a very unpleasant topic. but as unpleasant as it may be, your life may depend upon it. of our presentation today is when you are confronted with an active shooter, your objective is going to be survival. some of the things we are going to talk about that you should do might be unpleasant, but your life could depend upon it. in the world we live in today, with that level of violence, there is probably no security issue that is more important,
not only to you, but your staff and your family. the developing and periodically practicing an active shooter strategy. houses, evenlaw schools and churches today, are high visibility symbolic targets. there are a lot of people that think simply because they have not received any threats or they have not done anything controversial, that they don't have to worry. well, that kind of mindset can lead to major problems because active shooters sometimes take le and institutions strictly for the symbolism and the message it gives. so, it is not related to any type of threat. you should not be diluted by that. what is an active shooter? we define an active shooter as an unstable or ideologically motivated individual who indiscriminately and randomly
shoots people with the intent to kill them and kill themselves. toy have a message they want conveyed by death and destruction. once an active shooter is able to penetrate the outer perimeter of your building or your office, there is no warning whatsoever. doive shooter's ordinarily not have any signs or symptoms that allow you to prepare. so, if you do not have an emergency response plan in place, chaos is going to ensue. we have found that when chaos ensues, your employees, your staff are going to be just randomly picked off by the active shooter. now, we have found that the chance of survival, and the chance of your staff having an orderly response is directly dependent upon your initiative and your leadership in putting
together an active shooter response. let me give you a graphic example of how important and active shooter plan can be. of 1993 at about 9:00 in the morning, an individual by the name of jack gary mcknight stepped off the elevator on the fourth floor of the courthouse in topeka, kansas. he was coming in that day to be sentenced for a large scale marijuana cultivation operation that he and his wife operated. as he walked out of that elevator and approached the cso, the cso had no idea that half an hour earlier he had detonated a truck bomb in front of the sheriff's office and blue everybody out of the building, as well as injured a number of people by the shards of glass. up and he wasd carrying a briefcase. he pulled out a 40 caliber, shot
and killed jean goldsberry, shot a deputy clerk in the court that was talking about kansas chiefs football. he pushed his way through and began walking down the hallway. and as he did, he indiscriminately threw pipe bombs along the hallway. they exploded. the sound was deafening to everybody in the building. he then moved into the clerk's office, opened the door, and jumped over the counter. for the next several hours, mcknight began firing shots to 75 rounds, detonated 13 pipe bombs. the 13th pipe bomb went off in his hand and killed him. it took 100 police officers three hours to secure the building before the chaos began to subside. i got there the next morning in my capacity as the director of the u.s. marshals service.
me and a marshall and a couple of reporters trailing me, we went to talk to the clerk first. because frankly, i wanted to let him know how sorry i was for all the people who were injured during that disaster. it looked like a war zone. papers were blown everywhere. walls were blown out. henry, he said, i did not have one person that had a scratch on them. he said, we have a plan here and we practice it every year. everybody has a designated location of where they can shield themselves, where they can go to barricade themselves to make sure the active shooter has no contact with them, and he did not. it was nothing short of a miracle. judicial security committee recommends that every federal courthouse in america have an annual active shooter drill. and i commend it.
i have spoken to a lot of judges out here who tell me they have a plan in place, but it is very important that you do so. and the inspector from the marshals service will walk you through how to develop an active shooter plan. when you put together your active shooter plan, there is one other facet to keep in mind. staffs making sure your have the resources in case a disaster occurs. in addition to learning to shelter, planning to put those wedges in the door, you also need to make sure you have somebody in your courthouse who knows how to operate a different defibrillator. you need to be able to stabilize people until rescue a lives. people tell me, henry, the defibrillator as the instructions written on it. what the average person who is not been trained will be
reluctant to use that defibrillator and every second counts when a person has a cardiac arrest. secondly, you want to make sure you have people trained in cpr. thirdly, you want to have people trained in basic and advanced first aid, and have the resources to put a tourniquet on somebody to stop the bleeding if they are shot, so they do not bleed to death before the emergency responders arrive. and you want to have a list of these trained people distributed through your courthouse so everybody knows how to contact them in the event of an emergency. i know many of you are saying, i don't even want to think about these situations. you have just simply got to do it. let me give you another bit of personal advice. each person here, in varying degrees, exercises some leadership role, either in their office or their courthouse, or whatever institution they are involved in. and your staff looks to you for the leadership in putting
together a response strategy. i know many of you here have served in the military, or served in law enforcement positions were unfortunately, people have been severely injured or killed in the line of duty. i had four when i directed the marshals service and believe me, i still have scars from it. when something like that occurs, there is a great deal of sympathy, a lot of tears, a lot of hugging, but the question that is going to arise is, a few weeks later the family members are going to say, what could you have done to save my husband or my wife? what steps could you have taken? you don't ever want to put yourself in that position. make sure that you can rest in peace, that if a crisis occurs, you have taken every step possible to try to make it as safe as you can for your staff and not only that, for your family.
chris: good morning everyone. it was 23 years ago that i received my credentials. active shooter. when we were think that this paragraph, it was going to be directed at mostly judges and staff members. we decided we wanted to make it more broad and generic and get he information to folks. if you pick up a newspaper and turn on the tv and search the internet, chances are that you are going to be hit with headlines or someone who is killed quite a few people. as you can see, many examples are here on the just late today. the last one being a judge who was shot outside of her home in texas. what are we going to do to be able to protect ourselves? the active shooter is described as an attacker actively engaged in killing people with a firearm. the duration of the active
shooter event averages about 12.5 minutes. the average response time is 18 minutes. a great study was done by the fbi and a lot of statistics that i have was taken there. the active shooter program over the years has developed. it used to be law enforcement could get to the scene and tried to eliminate the threat. after virginia tech, the shooter had much greater ime. now the protocol is to get in as quick as you can and try to neutralize the threat. between 2000-2013. there was in the first seven years of that, 6.4 per
year. it has moved up swiftly to 16.4 in the last seven years. 60% of the events and info for it they arrived. t is usually some of both. 500 people wounded in the shootings. who are the shooters? it used to be that the mash shooter was typically a ale. in nine of those incidents, they start off by shooting a family member before going into he public. six of the shooters were female. 64 of them committed suicide. five of the shooters remained at large when the study concluded. notations, where do they happen? we think it is mostly in this area are this area.
tatistically the highest incidence rate occurs in commerce or commercial space that is open to the public. others that don't have hat. the aurora public shooting had 12 killed and several injured. omaha, nebraska. killed nine people. the example of a commercial business not open to the general public was the distributor in connecticut where a disgruntled employee was going to be let go and went back and killed all the people in the warehouse that day. ducational institutes.
t was much greater at colleges at first glance. but you can see from the example is that just as many ccurred in pre-k-12. sandy hook in connecticut, a single shooter shot his mom and then killed over 20 students there and then killed himself. virginia tech, killed two people in a dorm and then an hour later went into the academic building and started hooting people he killed himself just as the cops arrived. government installation, you have nonmilitary and military installations.
ft. hood, texas. a member of the military took the gun to work and started shooting. open spaces incidents, gabrielle giffords. it took the life of one of our ederal judges. houses of worship. it shows how vulnerable hurches are. the number of incidents in churches where the same whether in a church or a mall. we have the shooting in charleston that took the life f nine people at church. where will you be when the shooting starts? what will you do when it starts?
before the shooting starts we want to do a bit of planning. always be aware of your environment. locate the nearest exit. there is quite a few doors all round you. look for the exit signs. the protocol used to be to contained and neutralize the hreat. the kill rate went way up because the police were waiting for the police to get there. 18 minutes average for the cop o get there. now you need to run. get out of there if you can. if you can get out of the room and get to safety then do so.
encourage others to do it as well. leave your belongings ehind. what you have to be aware of is you don't want to look like a threat. if you are running, keep your hands visible. don't be caring your cell phone. follow the instructions of the police officer. if he said get down the floor, get down on the floor. do not help with the people. don't point and scream or anything like that. comment 911 when you are in a afe place.
that is when you want to all. make sure you give them as much information as possible. there was a lot of confusion as to where the shooter actually was. they noticed people running away and they figured that had to be hit. they couldn't tell how many shooters there were. hey got into the atrium area and they saw this shots were coming. if you call 911 give them as much info as you can. where you are, where you were when you heard the shooting and what is going on. if you cannot get out of the area then you need to hide. find a place to hide, you want to be outside their. you want to be able to keep
yourself covered. now you're hiding place should be one where you can protect yourself from gunfire. it needs to be something that is pretty sturdy. ant to prevent them from going into your space. can you put furniture in front of it? doesn't swing in or doesn't swing out? if the shooter is not targeting you specifically in this random act of violence then do we want to persuade them to go omewhere else. don't make it an easy kill for them. lock the door or barricaded. silence your cell phone and keep quiet. you have seen the horror movies
when the bad guy is coming and then the cell phone rings. than the back i can find you. if you're are in a hiding mode, make sure they can find you. turn off the lights. pretty common thing to do but when i am going to the office space they have the automatic ights. figure out how to turn it off f you have to. hide behind large items. what are you going to do that? then you are going to fight. we have seen examples of this in the train in paris.
a person was on there with a gun and they started fighting. they knew they couldn't get off the train so there were very few exits. we got the gun away from them. they subdued him. act as aggressively as ossible. keep fighting until you stop the aggression. what are you going to use as a eapon? is there something handy in order to save your life. improvised weapons. what could you use? they picked up an ink pen. the flagpole is something you could use. what can he use? be creative.
don't give up. i was speaking with a young lady a couple of weeks ago talking about this presentation and i was telling them about the fight. i don't know how to fight, she said. develop the mindset that you can survive. don't give up because it is a matter of your life. if they have a gun, you still have a chance. et up there and fight. now that i've scared you a little bit is what did we do now? how am i going to protect yself? what am i going to do if i'm in a situation like that?
we need to develop situational awareness. now where the exits are. always look for the nearest exit. ind the nearest cover. if the shooter gets into this area is there something i can et behind. start making a plan. make your plan right now. if you have your office, what are you going to do? i know where my exit is and i know where the alternate is. can i go out a different way? how do we get out of there? how my going to hide? if this is my home, i know the
athroom could be a choice. now having that plan, is there something i can put on their in case there is a need for it. can i have a full iron behind the door? how can i fight off an attacker if i have to do? what am i going to use to distract them? how can i barricaded the oor? what am i going to do to try and insert my safety? the judge mentioned that it needs to be shared with everyone in that space. if your family develops a plan, if you have a stranger coming in the middle of the night here
is what we're going. we're going to go to this location. we're going to gather these weapons. if the kids or something upstairs, maybe they can't run down to their safe place. you're going to try and get out this way. same thing at the office. we want to try and develop a plan with everyone there. if you have an emergency, chances are it won't be at your desk. if i'm in the coffee shop or in the restroom. what am i going to do then. how am i going to shelter in place there?
if there is a threat against a judge for another protective member of the core family, we will go out and do an valuation of their home. we're going to look at it from three different areas. we're going to look at the outside looking in and the inside looking in. where are the vulnerabilities? where can they launch an attack? the judge that was shot outside her home in texas, the person waited outside. the judge that was shot in reno, it was a couple hundred ards away. what are we going to do? we need to see what the vulnerabilities are. if we can't mitigate them, one of the things we teach is what you do with shrubbery and
hiding places. what we can do is try to cut them down low enough it is not offer an attacker a hiding place. can we at least recognize that someone might be hiding behind there? can we put motion sensor lights that will come on? we want to mitigated as much as we can. stay alert and trust your instincts. if he feels that, it probably is bad. if your spider senses are tingling, then it probably doesn't feel right. walk back and take a look. chances are if you're having those feelings of anxiety, something is wrong.
pay attention to the people around you. we are so focused on what we are doing that we lose track of what's going on around us. we have to at least look around and see what is happening. ractice daily. it means to continue developing our situational awareness. ok there is a next say. where my going to go? here's the exit? scan the area ahead of you, behind you and all around you. get a sense of what is
happening. a lot of times. they knew something was getting ready to happen. continued to develop your reaction plan. if you are thinking this happens, develop your plans. am i going to go out this way or the other way? that is a broad overview of the response plan. who has a question concerning an active shooter? >> >> if you have questions or concerns, i hope to develop a guide for a self
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that included once again the idea that this nation would exist forever. and that no state had a right to leave it. so how ironic is it that that man's daughter would marry robert e lee who became the great confederate general and perhaps the man who came closest than any other man in history to destroying the nation that was created in the american revolution. >> next, the founder of an anti-government movement in zimbabwe, the movement sparked
>> good morning, everyone. my name is peter david i have the privilege of being the director of the atlantic councils africa center. on behalf of our chairman, jon huntsman, and our president pratt cap, welcome to the atlantic council for this morning's conversation. it is really a privilege and a distinct pleasure to this morning be able to welcome pastor evan mawarire and here to the atlantic council. evan is a zimbabwean pastor of a small church, and until april f this year, i admit, he was not widely known to, even within his country, let alone to those of us that follow african affairs, or otherwise outside of the country. he was not a political figure or activist. in fact, his identity as an average citizen of that country is probably fundamental to the #thisflag citizens movement gaining traction throughout his country. now known to all of us through
the trade back -- trademark zimbabwe and flag wrapped around his shoulders, those of the familiar of his actions in he months. we all know about his frustration with the corruption and injustice and poverty experienced in zimbabwe. it took to social media to express disappointment at the lack of progress made in the country since independence. to quote samantha powers, the country that was once the bread basket of south africa becoming a basket case over the course of a decade. the move that began spontaneously see after a video that he posted went viral, since he began to speak out, he is calling the government to account. following the nationwide shutdown initiated by the citizens movement, he was arrested, his house and office
were searched with a warrant that curiously claimed that he had stolen a button. i knew things were bad in zimbabwe. i did not know they were that bad. despite consistently calling for nonviolence, he has been charged for inciting public violence. later changed to subverting a constitutionally elected government. i suspect the news coming out in the last 48 hours, you will be shortly charged with being a cyber terrorist, which makes you a first at the atlantic council. we have posted many conversations on cyber terrorism. we have never hosted a cyber terrorist. anyways, thousands of well-wishers have gathered around the courthouse when you were arrested and brought to trial, waiting for the verdict.
you were subsequently released when the magistrate throughout the absurd charges. we are very privileged to have you here, not only because you have ignited the hope of many zimbabweans who have rediscovered the courage to make their own individual voices heard, but also you have reignited in those of us that follow this country from afar our own belief that perhaps somehow, some sort of peaceful transition is possible. for that we thank you. you join us here on the stage here our mandate here at the atlantic councils african center has been to promote insperity, promote stability and security in africa through greater geopolitical partnerships, with the peoples and the nations of africa, and certainly that comes with a peaceful transition in zambales. it we have had the pleasure of
hosting anyone from government ministers to members of parliament to members of the opposition here. it is now our privilege to welcome you as a representative not of a political movement, per se, but of the aspirations of a people that have been longing for some time for peaceful change and progress. pastor evan, welcome to the atlantic council. he floor is yours. evan: wow. if, three months ago, you had told me that i would have to speak on behalf of my country, or if you have told me three months ago that i had to run
from home overnight, if you old me that my family would be accosted in the middle of the night at home, if you told me that my kids would be watched at school as my wife picked them up, i really would have asked that you had a medical heckup or some sort, because there was no way that i could've ever planned what has happened. let me first of all start by acknowledging the presence of my fellow citizens of the beautiful nation of zimbabwe. thank you so much for standing for your nation.
thank you for raising your voices, from thousands of miles away, we heard the voices and we felt the passion and unity, and we are so excited that distance means nothing now to you and me. we have learned that we can be won and that we can stand for what we have always believed, and that you and i communicate to each other now in ways from people that are far removed from the reality we live in do ot understand. we have had zimbabwe in our hearts for so long. zimbabwe can be better than the one we have. sometimes, you and i have taken ap can into our hearts to look at the zimbabwe we long for, and when we had the chance to take it out, on our own, at night when we can back at home, or when we watch our kids sleeping, and you wish to yourself, it's only zimbabwe could be the nation it is supposed to be. i believe we are standing at the cusp of an opportunity that allows us to see this beautiful nation become exactly what it is supposed to be. let me also take this chance to
thank the citizens of the world, that have allowed us to be able to congregate here today and tell our own story, through our own eyes, with our own voices. when i think about zimbabwe and i think about where we have come from, i think about the fact that my grandfather went to war against colonialism, and so did my father as a young man. and those two men did not see what they fought for. they gave birth to me and i have not seen what they fought for. i have come to a place where my children, my five year old and three-year-old, have to see the kind of zimbabwe that my forefathers believed in when they went to liberate our country. i made the decision i was not allowed to people that took my father's dreams to take my. they have taken mine. i am 39 years old, but they
cannot take my children's dreams. you cannot do that. you have to forgive me, i am so passionate about zimbabwe. and sometimes, you have heard about zimbabwe, but you hear it through research. you hear it through statistics, you never get to see the tears. sometimes, the tears are necessary. for you to understand. for us, it is not about votes. it is just about life. it is just about wanting to be free in our own country. it is about me wanting zimbabwe to be the best place for a zimbabwean to live. my friends say, you cry too much. please do not cry when you o.
but this is happening in zimbabwe, we are crying. we cannot suppress the tears anymore. we have been taught for so long, to put up a bold face to always make a plan, but we cannot do that anymore. that is what caused me to stand up. that is what has caused me to be able to raise my voice and say, i don't know what may happen to me, but i cannot ustify my silence anymore. the bible, which is a force that drives me, says in james, chapter one, verse 27, it says true religion, that god our father accepts, is to fight for he widows and the orphans. zimbabwe has the unenviable record of a rising number of orphans, because moms and dads are dying before they can see their children grown up and
enjoy the sweet spots of zimbabwe. they are dying of diseases that can be cured. they are dying because they have no access to good health. they are dying because they do not have decent incomes to look after their children. so, as a pastor, i cannot justify my silence anymore. when men and women sleep on the streets, and the irony of it is, it is not just the street. in zomba play -- zimbabwe, there is a street named after robert kuba -- robert moog abbé, our president. very night, hordes of vendors, old senior citizens, old women sleep in the streets together with their grandchildren, because their daughters and sons have traveled to lance far off to work for their family. so grandma must sleep with that child on the street, not because she does not have a home, but she was not able to make enough profit.
she could not make $.50 on her six tomatoes to be able to go home and come back the next day, so they sleep on robert mugabe street. that is the reality of what our nation is going through. on a road named after our own president. we are saying our government has failed. we are not afraid to raise our voices, because it is the truth. the citizens of zimbabwe are the missing link. we are the missing voice. we are the voice that has not been present in the timeline of building zimbabwe. we have realized that. over the years we have called on foreign powers. we have called on the african union. we have called on all sorts of people to come in and help. while we are glad for the help, we realized that -- nobody loves a zimbabwean. we have to be at the forefront of pushing our country in the direction we wanted to go.
we cannot expect anyone to do it for us. so what began as an accident has today become a voice, and i m glad it is not about me. i am glad my fellow citizens realize it is not up to one person and it is not about him. he may have spoken up first but every one of us is responsible for where our country needs to go. so we begin with a simple video i posted one day as i sat in my office and so frustrated at the situation. i failed to raise school fees for my children and still have not been able to. the reason why i recorded that video is because i looked at the small flag that sits on the desk in my office. and i thought to myself, this flag makes a promise to me as a zimbabwean. but what this promise stands for in a state of my nation are so far apart, i felt like this flag was a fraud.
i felt like the promise had been compromised. that everything that this flag stands for is something that is a promise that has been broken. but it also dawned on me at that moment of frustration, as i limited the fact that my country seem to have stood in the way of my dreams, it dawned on me, i'm the one responsible. i am the one responsible for helping zimbabwe to regain an honorable place amongst the nations of the world. i realize that me and my fellow citizens, wherever we went, we would hide when we saw the zimbabwe flag. that we would keep silent and hope no one noticed when people were talking about zimbabwe and what was going on. we were so ashamed. now the idea is that you and i must stand. we will represent zimbabwe etter than any politician, because we live the life every day. we are the month that case one goes on in zimbabwe every
day. so today, i really come to join my fellow citizens to tell that story of zimbabwe, to tell how we are turning it around, and to invite anyone who wants to help us to come and do so on the condition that you are helping the citizen. that you hear our story, and you understand where we come from. but if the world was never to help us, if there was never going to be anyone that would come to our rescue, we want the world to know that we have discovered that we are the heroes that we have been waiting for. i will and my opening remarks this morning by letting you know that i am not a man of va e